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bypassing house speaker john boehner, who has had trouble getting his fellow republicans to agree to anything, the president called on senate majority on minority leads are harry reid on mitch mcconnell to work out a deal on then present it to the house. he also laid out a scaled down mini deal if they are can't manage it. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor, i asked senator reid to do this, put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on miedddle class families don' go up, that unemployment is still available for 2 million people on that lays the groundwork for additional deficit reduction on economic growth steps that we can take in the new year but let's not miss this deadline. >> as for the two senate leaders, they spoke shortly after the meeting on sounded a bit more hopeful than the president. >> i think it was a very positive meeting. there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. it's a very serious meeting on it took an extended period of time, as you all know wai
bypassing house speaker john boehner, who has had trouble getting his fellow republicans to agree to anything, the president called on senate majority on minority leads are harry reid on mitch mcconnell to work out a deal on then present it to the house. he also laid out a scaled down mini deal if they are can't manage it. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor, i asked senator reid to do this, put a bill on the floor that...
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do you think john boehner was really even trying at this point? i think he knew the up and down vote would save his bacon, he would get a bill passed that they would have gotten the blame for if it didn't get passed. at this point it almost looks like he was doing what he had to do. >> well, yeah, he's got elements in his party that definitely wanted to address spending and he had to demonstrate that they did not have the votes to address spending today. spending needs to be cut, it needs to be cut and he said look, we're going to have to cut it later. so he had to walk through that. so a lot of this blowup about republicans are blowing up this bill, no, it was just an idea that if we don't talk about spending right now, it seemed like it was spineless. >> hold that thought. i want to bring in republican congressman david schiekert from arizona. congressman, everything i just said sounds like a bunch of baloney to you. you are not going to vote in favor of the bill as it stands, the senate bill? >> sorry about saying this about baloney -- >> it's
do you think john boehner was really even trying at this point? i think he knew the up and down vote would save his bacon, he would get a bill passed that they would have gotten the blame for if it didn't get passed. at this point it almost looks like he was doing what he had to do. >> well, yeah, he's got elements in his party that definitely wanted to address spending and he had to demonstrate that they did not have the votes to address spending today. spending needs to be cut, it needs...
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down, boehner/reid couldn't get this done. we had to bring in joe biden to get this done. i'm not sure anybody else wants the job so i think the job is safe for boehner but i don't think this is something that really bodes well for his effectiveness, at least within the party's thought process zip think one of of t -- >> i think one of the win nerwi maria, joe biden. >> i completely agree, wolf. i think joe biden has done a spectacular job of bringing people together, but i will also say this is a win for senator mcconnell because he was part of that team that made this deal come together and he assured that the majority of republicans in the senate were going to support this deal. let's think about that. who knew that in this divided congress that we were going to be able to get a deal on the fiscal cliff where in the senate it was going to pass with the majority of republican support. and mitch mcconnell, my hat goes off to him because i don't think we expected that that was going to be the case. so i think vice president bi
down, boehner/reid couldn't get this done. we had to bring in joe biden to get this done. i'm not sure anybody else wants the job so i think the job is safe for boehner but i don't think this is something that really bodes well for his effectiveness, at least within the party's thought process zip think one of of t -- >> i think one of the win nerwi maria, joe biden. >> i completely agree, wolf. i think joe biden has done a spectacular job of bringing people together, but i will...
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do you support john boehner? >> i do, actually. i just walked out of that meeting she just referenced that dana just mentioned saying it was internal procedure setting up the rules for the house. there was actually no conversation at all of any type about a lack of support for john boehner. >> let me just understand why that is though because in the recent key moments of leadership, john boehner has not been able to deliver, right? there was the plan b right before christmas. that he was going to put out and couldn't even get back to the floor for his own party and then in the fiscal cliff deal, he was the guy doing the negotiating and wasn't able to get it done. then senator mcconnell had to step in. if john boehner couldn't get that done, why is he going to be speaker? >> here's the challenge of it. the house passed sequestration documents in may. and we passed our tax documents in august and then we went through the process. the mistake that was made and we're waiting on the senate to respond. he shouldn't have done face to face
do you support john boehner? >> i do, actually. i just walked out of that meeting she just referenced that dana just mentioned saying it was internal procedure setting up the rules for the house. there was actually no conversation at all of any type about a lack of support for john boehner. >> let me just understand why that is though because in the recent key moments of leadership, john boehner has not been able to deliver, right? there was the plan b right before christmas. that...
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you'd have to work with speaker boehner. the president was trying to work out this grand bargain with speaker boehner. but when they couldn't get it done and it collapsed, it pitched over to the senate. when it became clear it had to be a senate deal, mitch mcconnell has this historic relationship with the vice president because they worked in the senate for so many years together. they just know each other. it's not like they're great friends and they don't go around and vacation together but they know how to get deals done together. so when he needed what they call a dance partner, knew what they needed to horse trade and make it happen, that's who he turned to. he's just become an exceptional resource in the white house for getting deals done on capitol hill. >> we've got an eye on that door as well. you're looking at the same thing to make sure if the president comes out, we're all going to stop talking. for the next three big things happening, the dealt ceiling, the sequester, which this bill pushes off for two months,
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boehner's juice is gone. he didn't necessarily have the votes to get another spending bill through his own house. and so he basically ended up lying and deceiving house republicans that he would bring this to the floor. and then he didn't. which is why the outrage and why he's now been forced to put it into two parts, bring to it the floor on friday in part the flood insurance part and then the rest of it won't happen until the middle of the month. >> use the word lying that's a pretty serious word. let me bring kristen in. disaster relief new jersey, new york, connecticut is concerned. it's a hot political issue. why. >> because even for folks who believe that the government is doing too many things that ought to be left to individuals and the private-sector when it comes to things like taking care of people who have been hit by a disaster, taking care of people in emergency situations, that's something that i think everybody ought to be able to agree on. so that's really what's causing a lot of questions ab
boehner's juice is gone. he didn't necessarily have the votes to get another spending bill through his own house. and so he basically ended up lying and deceiving house republicans that he would bring this to the floor. and then he didn't. which is why the outrage and why he's now been forced to put it into two parts, bring to it the floor on friday in part the flood insurance part and then the rest of it won't happen until the middle of the month. >> use the word lying that's a pretty...
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you'd have to work with speaker boehner. the president was trying to work out this grand bargain with speaker boehner. but when they couldn't get it done and it collapsed, it pitched over to the senate. when it became clear it had to be a senate deal, mitch mcconnell has this historic relationship with the vice president because they worked in the senate for so many years together. they just know each other. it's not like they're great friends and they don't go around and vacation together but they know how to get deals done together. so when he needed what they call a dance partner, knew what they needed to horse trade and make it happen, that's who he turned to. he's just become an exceptional resource in the white house for getting deals done on capitol hill. >> we've got an eye on that door as well. you're looking at the same thing to make sure if the president comes out, we're all going to stop talking. for the next three big things happening, the dealt ceiling, the sequester, which this bill pushes off for two months,
you'd have to work with speaker boehner. the president was trying to work out this grand bargain with speaker boehner. but when they couldn't get it done and it collapsed, it pitched over to the senate. when it became clear it had to be a senate deal, mitch mcconnell has this historic relationship with the vice president because they worked in the senate for so many years together. they just know each other. it's not like they're great friends and they don't go around and vacation together but...
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you'd have to work with speaker boehner. the president was trying to work out this grand bargain with speaker boehner. but when they couldn't get it done and it collapsed, it pitched over to the senate. when it became clear it had to be a senate deal, mitch mcconnell has this historic relationship with the vice president because they worked in the senate for so many years together. they just know each other. it's not like they're great friends and they don't go around and vacation together but they know how to get deals done together. so when he needed what they call a dance partner, knew what they needed to horse trade and make it happen, that's who he turned to. he's just become an exceptional resource in the white house for getting deals done on capitol hill. >> we've got an eye on that door as well. you're looking at the same thing to make sure if the president comes out, we're all going to stop talking. for the next three big things happening, the dealt ceiling, the sequester, which this bill pushes off for two months,
you'd have to work with speaker boehner. the president was trying to work out this grand bargain with speaker boehner. but when they couldn't get it done and it collapsed, it pitched over to the senate. when it became clear it had to be a senate deal, mitch mcconnell has this historic relationship with the vice president because they worked in the senate for so many years together. they just know each other. it's not like they're great friends and they don't go around and vacation together but...
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he said after the meeting he had with the speaker, john boehner, boehner promised this vote beginning on friday, then in the middle of the month gave him an olive branch. peter king, who had been very critical earlier in the day, all of a sudden he seemed to be reassured. do you think that reassurance is justified? >> i'm not entirely sure. i do think -- look, i know john boehner has been preoccupied. we all know that. but it seems to me there's a great -- miss of if nothing else a real moment to come out a little bit like a hero. it's just tone deaf. whatever the practicalities are, that this involving hurricane sandy would get pushed aside. i mean, you know, look at the martens. i mean, the family you just had on. they lost their house. there are so many people here in new york still without power. you know, it's still an ongoing problem, and it's been maybe it's not at the forefront anymore, but it seems to me that there are just -- even the optics of it would be perceived by most people. so that's what to me seems most surprising here. >> all right. everybody stay put. don't go an
he said after the meeting he had with the speaker, john boehner, boehner promised this vote beginning on friday, then in the middle of the month gave him an olive branch. peter king, who had been very critical earlier in the day, all of a sudden he seemed to be reassured. do you think that reassurance is justified? >> i'm not entirely sure. i do think -- look, i know john boehner has been preoccupied. we all know that. but it seems to me there's a great -- miss of if nothing else a real...
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and on tuesday john boehner, the 113th congress is sworn in and john boehner is expected to be elected to his second term as house speaker by a vote in the house. we'll see if everyone plays nice in the sandbox and work together to solve the country's problems in 2013. if you're sitting down to breakfast, this bowl of cereal, that milk can get more expensive if a fiscal cliff deal is not reached. that gallon of milk might cost as much as $7. cnn's candy crowley spoke with secretary of agriculture tom vilsack. $7 milk? this is known as the dairy cliff, right? >> yes, it is. we've been so focused on other kinds of cliffs, but, in fact, because there is no farm bill, they revert back to some laws that were enacted in the 1940s. it would cause -- because milk won't be, if you will, propped up, it would cause milk prices too almost double, at least according to the agriculture secretary. they're working on a fix, something like that which hits consumers so hard. they'll notice that immediately is likely to be something that congress does do something about. my guess is they will just extend
and on tuesday john boehner, the 113th congress is sworn in and john boehner is expected to be elected to his second term as house speaker by a vote in the house. we'll see if everyone plays nice in the sandbox and work together to solve the country's problems in 2013. if you're sitting down to breakfast, this bowl of cereal, that milk can get more expensive if a fiscal cliff deal is not reached. that gallon of milk might cost as much as $7. cnn's candy crowley spoke with secretary of...
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we are not into the senate yet and the republican speaker john boehner plablamed the crisis one president saying he the one who has never found a way to say yes. >> so you are in new york and i'm in atlanta, and we get to washington now, because the senior congressional correspondent dana bash is closely following the negotiations from capitol hill, and dana, you have been there and talking to people, and where are we on this? >> well, the senate majority leader harry reid was on the floor moments ago saying that the senate will reconvene at 11:00 a.m. tomorrow. the senate will reconvene tomorrow at 11:00 tomorrow, and that means no senate votes tonight which is not good news for everybody looking at the calendar and looking at the watch at this point and not the calendar to see that it is midnight tomorrow night that everybody's taxes in this country will go up. simply put, both sides are not at a place where they believe that they can come up with anything to put on the senate floor for a vote tonight. they will give it until the actual deadline, december 31st tomorrow, to reconvene. ho
we are not into the senate yet and the republican speaker john boehner plablamed the crisis one president saying he the one who has never found a way to say yes. >> so you are in new york and i'm in atlanta, and we get to washington now, because the senior congressional correspondent dana bash is closely following the negotiations from capitol hill, and dana, you have been there and talking to people, and where are we on this? >> well, the senate majority leader harry reid was on...
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boehner had a bad beating in that plan b vote. >> i think the main thing that boehner has going for him in the rivalry is he has the worst job in the world. >> is it really the worst job in the world? >> certainly the worst job in congress. speaker boehner has to sit there and eat a lot of stuff you wouldn't necessarily want to eat because there are a lot of republicans who basically want to emote, they want to act up and speaker boehner just has to take it and try to hammer deal and eric cantor, if he goes into boehner's role, he has to do the same thing boehner wants to do. >> the starting quarterback hates the number two quarterback and boehner, if he was smart, he should have dispatched him a long time ago and said, young man, i'm going to put you out to pasture if you pull that crap on me again. he made a mistake over the debt ceiling. >> the two of them are working very closely during the negotiations. if you ask any republican on the senate, nobody thinks boehner's speakership is challenged. >> but it only takes 17 votes for that whole thing to fall apart. it reminds me of "the g
boehner had a bad beating in that plan b vote. >> i think the main thing that boehner has going for him in the rivalry is he has the worst job in the world. >> is it really the worst job in the world? >> certainly the worst job in congress. speaker boehner has to sit there and eat a lot of stuff you wouldn't necessarily want to eat because there are a lot of republicans who basically want to emote, they want to act up and speaker boehner just has to take it and try to hammer...
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john boehner was promising a friday vote on part of the relief package and speedy action on all the rest as well. dana bash will talk about this in just a moment but, you know, a lot of people are still pretty darn disgusted about how we got here in the first place. like i said, our congressional correspondent dana bash has been up early and to bed very late into bed at all. so, dana, point a to point b it seemed this was warp speed from no action to some action to hopefully a lot more action. can you walk me through the machinations? >> you played some of the comments from members of congress who were absolutely furious. the key here it was the speaker's fellow republicans they went ballistic. you can almost still feel the walls here shaking, ashley, from how angry they were on the house floor the minute they realized last night the speaker was not going to allow this to come up for a vote in this lame duck congress. it took on a life of its own and by this afternoon the house speaker and the majority leader had a meeting right down here behind me in his office with members of the new j
john boehner was promising a friday vote on part of the relief package and speedy action on all the rest as well. dana bash will talk about this in just a moment but, you know, a lot of people are still pretty darn disgusted about how we got here in the first place. like i said, our congressional correspondent dana bash has been up early and to bed very late into bed at all. so, dana, point a to point b it seemed this was warp speed from no action to some action to hopefully a lot more action....
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again, boehner couldn't get it through his caucus at $1 million a year last week. so i think what we need to do ultimately, not going to happen now because there's no time to have a grand deal but ultimately, we have to have a grand deal where we have to cut spending and increase taxes and we have to do that to put our country down the fiscal path of responsibility. now, the question though, it becomes a political question in the house, because john boehner has not wanted to pass it with democratic votes. there have been, just last year, there have been instances, where a majority of republicans, but not enough to make a majority are joining with -- >> let me just interrupt you -- >> -- to make a majority. >> let me ask you this point, this is more to the philosophy of democracy here. do you see that we have an inability as congress to reach some sort of compromise? in other words, that we are watching the decay of democracy here in our inability to do anything or accomplish anything, especially when it comes to the fiscal cliff. are you worried about the future an
again, boehner couldn't get it through his caucus at $1 million a year last week. so i think what we need to do ultimately, not going to happen now because there's no time to have a grand deal but ultimately, we have to have a grand deal where we have to cut spending and increase taxes and we have to do that to put our country down the fiscal path of responsibility. now, the question though, it becomes a political question in the house, because john boehner has not wanted to pass it with...
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didn't boehner try to go around them basically? >> i think the tea party has been weakened significantly in the last presidential election. only 21% of americans said they identified as supporters of the tea party. their kind of control over the republican party is substantially weaker. i do think you have hit tonight head, margaret. there's a centralized feel being among democrats that they can make compromises and they will not pay the ultimate price for that compromise. that is no longer something that is in the kind of dna of the republican party. we don't need to make any kind of false equivalencies here, this is a republican problem. they are no longer able to govern as a kind of full fledged party. >> charles, there's one economic argument that has come apart here and that is the tea party conservative republican argument that we want a government that spends money responsibly, doesn't overtax people. that got divorced from the idea that we ended up with people defend being the rights of people who earn more than $500,000 a
didn't boehner try to go around them basically? >> i think the tea party has been weakened significantly in the last presidential election. only 21% of americans said they identified as supporters of the tea party. their kind of control over the republican party is substantially weaker. i do think you have hit tonight head, margaret. there's a centralized feel being among democrats that they can make compromises and they will not pay the ultimate price for that compromise. that is no...
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does john boehner come out of this weakened or strengthened? >> john boehner's weakness and strength are kind of the same thing. he tends to take a laissez faire approach with his guys, doesn't kick them in the side very often. not able to do that. that makes him popular, means people like him, but it's hard for him to command his troops. i don't think he comes out of this any worse off than before in terms of members of his caucus, they look at him as having created a strategy that is narrowly navigating all the sholes. >> the result of the deal, we will have to have two or three more deals in the coming months and go through the cliff like negotiations. what is the takeaway and lesson for the republican conference. they keep bainary long and try to get better deals? or get forced to the up or down votesory the course of the coming months? >> they are looking for leverage. their favorite word. where do they have lev rage over the president to get spending cuts? they keep seeking leverage long past the point where it's obvious the president has
does john boehner come out of this weakened or strengthened? >> john boehner's weakness and strength are kind of the same thing. he tends to take a laissez faire approach with his guys, doesn't kick them in the side very often. not able to do that. that makes him popular, means people like him, but it's hard for him to command his troops. i don't think he comes out of this any worse off than before in terms of members of his caucus, they look at him as having created a strategy that is...
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dy call john boehner the top elected democrat in the country. he's the top-elected republican in the country. jessica, thank you for that reporting. we'll be back to you in a few moments. in a few hours, in just a few hours, trading will open in some parts of the world for the final time this year. here's the problem -- they're going to be reacting to what's going on in washington. people around the globe are going to be watching what is happening in the united states with a wary eye, cnn international anchor jim clancy is with me now. jim, this is such a hyper-focused american problem and yet it's really a problem for the whole world. >> it definitely is. if mitch mcconnell is looking for a dance partner. the united states is the dance partner for the entire world. the markets hate uncertainty what they hate even more is steering abject failure square in the face. those markets are going to open up in four or five hours' time we should see some limited reaction in asia. but perhaps not yet. it's still uncertain what is going to happen here. the
dy call john boehner the top elected democrat in the country. he's the top-elected republican in the country. jessica, thank you for that reporting. we'll be back to you in a few moments. in a few hours, in just a few hours, trading will open in some parts of the world for the final time this year. here's the problem -- they're going to be reacting to what's going on in washington. people around the globe are going to be watching what is happening in the united states with a wary eye, cnn...
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boehner promised at one point he would publish things for three days before they voted on them. i thought that was a good idea. obama campaign promising the negotiations would be on c-span. what they're doing right now is fundamentally wrong and not likely to help very much, and just leads us to the next crisis, which will be over the debt ceiling, to be followed by another crisis. >> i'm going to ask you to stick around if you can. >> unfortunately, i can't, but i do want to wish you a happy new year despite the fact that you're in washington. >> mr. speaker, to you and the entire family, we wish you a happy new year as well. we'll see you back here in washington at some point, i'm sure. >> take care. >> thank you very much. we'll get senator rand paul's perspective on what's going on. the republican senator from kentucky, when we come back. i plugged in snapshot, and 30 days later, i was saving big on car insurance. with snapshot, i knew what i could save before i switched to progressive. the better i drive, the more i save. i wish our company had something this cool. you're n
boehner promised at one point he would publish things for three days before they voted on them. i thought that was a good idea. obama campaign promising the negotiations would be on c-span. what they're doing right now is fundamentally wrong and not likely to help very much, and just leads us to the next crisis, which will be over the debt ceiling, to be followed by another crisis. >> i'm going to ask you to stick around if you can. >> unfortunately, i can't, but i do want to wish...
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but at this point, it's up to john boehner to see how much support he has for the bill with or without amendments and whether he can move forward today or if it's going to be delayed. e we should find that out shortly. >> brianna keilar live for us at the white house, thank you. also we're going to keep an eye on washington today. we'll be live throughout the day to just see what the house plans to do. and then coming up we're going to get the pulse of the people too. back in a moment. >>> we're all keeping a close eye on the house today to see e what those house members decide to do about the fiscal cliff. the republican leaders there are expected to meet about 20 minutes or so. actually an hour and 20 minutes or so to go over their strategy for the day. that's when they will decide potentially if we're even going to have a house vote today on that plan that the senate approved early this morning. for you out late last night, it was late last night. 2:00 in the morning eastern time. going to keep you updated on the machinations of the house. in the meantime, since it's the first day o
but at this point, it's up to john boehner to see how much support he has for the bill with or without amendments and whether he can move forward today or if it's going to be delayed. e we should find that out shortly. >> brianna keilar live for us at the white house, thank you. also we're going to keep an eye on washington today. we'll be live throughout the day to just see what the house plans to do. and then coming up we're going to get the pulse of the people too. back in a moment....
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john boehner is a deal maker at the end of the day of the old school. the negotiation had president obama, whether it's the debt ceilings from august 2011 or the most recent round, they didn't come to any fruition, because john boehner's negotiating position was undercut bit the far right wing of his caucus. when the dust clears, when those folks realized they ended up with a worse deal than think might have been done if they voted for plan b or backed the grand bargain in august 2011, whether that learn curve adjusts their strategy going forward. at the end of the day we do need members of congress to work together, but at the end of the day, the great hope is they've learned the lessons that made it a do-nothing congress of historic proportions and they will be more willing to work together across the aisle. >> margaret hoover, your husband is a have i smart man and said smart things just there, but it made me wonder if he also wrote a smart book about wing nuts. does that mean john byner -- i'm not sure, john, what you're saying. >> what we're gettin
john boehner is a deal maker at the end of the day of the old school. the negotiation had president obama, whether it's the debt ceilings from august 2011 or the most recent round, they didn't come to any fruition, because john boehner's negotiating position was undercut bit the far right wing of his caucus. when the dust clears, when those folks realized they ended up with a worse deal than think might have been done if they voted for plan b or backed the grand bargain in august 2011, whether...
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he just decided to sneak off in the dark of night. >> by day's end, john boehner was promising a vote on the relief package and a speedy action on all the rest of the relief package. point "a" to point "b" this is warp speed from no action to some action to hopefully a lot more action. can you walk me through the machinations? >> you played some of the comments from members of congress who were absolutely furious. the key here it was the speaker's fellow republicans they went ballistic. it's a perfect word. you can almost still feel the walls here shaking, ashley, from how angry they were on the house floor the minute they realized last night the speaker was not going to allow this to come up for a vote in this lame duck congress. so what happened was it just became -- it took on a life of its own. and by afternoon, the house speaker and the majority leader had a meeting right down here behind me in his office with members of the new jersey and new york delegations, the republicans and in about 20 minutes he had it done. he had it all laid out. he promised them they would have a vote
he just decided to sneak off in the dark of night. >> by day's end, john boehner was promising a vote on the relief package and a speedy action on all the rest of the relief package. point "a" to point "b" this is warp speed from no action to some action to hopefully a lot more action. can you walk me through the machinations? >> you played some of the comments from members of congress who were absolutely furious. the key here it was the speaker's fellow...
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boehner hasn't cut cant or out. you ask any republican on the hill, nobody thinks boehner should be challenged. >> that does seem to be conventional wisdom. but it only does take 17 votes for that whole thing to fall apart. he reminds me of the godfather, keep your friends close, your enemies closer. >> he knows him too well to want to take it. >> that's a fascinating point as well. number two, we've got grover norquist versus the gop. and here's what's fascinating. he's been a major player, a huge figure, and yet the push back has been growing. the tide has been swelling. take a look at this montage clip of republicans pushing back on grover norquist in the atr pledge. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we should be making to each other should be avoid greed. >> i never signed the pledge. >> he's becoming irrelevant. you can see it in his eyes. he knows the game is up. >> a pledge you sign 20 years ago, 18 years ago, is for that congress. >> i'm going to be the
boehner hasn't cut cant or out. you ask any republican on the hill, nobody thinks boehner should be challenged. >> that does seem to be conventional wisdom. but it only does take 17 votes for that whole thing to fall apart. he reminds me of the godfather, keep your friends close, your enemies closer. >> he knows him too well to want to take it. >> that's a fascinating point as well. number two, we've got grover norquist versus the gop. and here's what's fascinating. he's been...
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john boehner from your state of ohio. there are a lot of people that say if the deal were between these two guys, it would be made. the problem is john boehner can't agree to something with president obama and then take it back to his own party. >> well, and vice versa. a year ago august the president couldn't agree to the deal he needed another $400 billion in revenue. look, if the president and senator reid and john boehner all said to me today it's written, let's put simpson-bowles on the floor, i guarantee you given the urgency we could cobble together something to solve this problem but nobody is willing to pull the trigger. everybody wants to play the blame game. this blame game is about to put us over the edge. >> the problem, of course, which you don't personally face because you didn't run for this new congress is a poll that we have that was taken very recently that says -- we asked who would be more responsible if the fiscal cliff occurs. 48% of respondents say the gop in congress. 37% blame -- would blame pres
john boehner from your state of ohio. there are a lot of people that say if the deal were between these two guys, it would be made. the problem is john boehner can't agree to something with president obama and then take it back to his own party. >> well, and vice versa. a year ago august the president couldn't agree to the deal he needed another $400 billion in revenue. look, if the president and senator reid and john boehner all said to me today it's written, let's put simpson-bowles on...
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there were ultimatums and poison pills and reports of house speaker john boehner f-bombing the senate majority leader, harry reid, no joke, and political blogs are all over this. but there's another back room angle that's not getting as much coverage. this bill that most people think is about the fiscal cliff is also about calling a shopping cart full of pork. it's like a kettle full of pet projects. pork, pork, pork. lawmakers who barely had the time to pass the bill and who didn't have the time to pass a storm relief bill somehow found the time to extend a series of tax breaks. and now bear in mind that the tax incentives is how government shapes policy there's tax breaks for homeowners, parents with children, charity donor, small businesses you name it but according to taxpayers for common sense some of the items in this bill don't make much common sense. are you ready? $46 million in 2013 for motor speedways, clearly a benefit for nascar. 199 million in tax breaks f for rum making. that largely benefiting a big liquor conglomerate. $38 million in tax incentives benefiting starkist
there were ultimatums and poison pills and reports of house speaker john boehner f-bombing the senate majority leader, harry reid, no joke, and political blogs are all over this. but there's another back room angle that's not getting as much coverage. this bill that most people think is about the fiscal cliff is also about calling a shopping cart full of pork. it's like a kettle full of pet projects. pork, pork, pork. lawmakers who barely had the time to pass the bill and who didn't have the...
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republican representative tom cole says he's confident that boehner can get the votes he needs. >> on the speaker's plan, he had over 200 republican votes, it's not as if he had an awfully strong hand to play, if it's a deal john boehner can accept, it will be passed in a bipartisan manner with a very strong majority. if on the other hand he's neutral or not favorable, his chances will be a lot slimmer. >> lisa desjardins following the fiscal cliff negotiations on capitol hill. do you have any good news for us, lisa? >> reporter: the news is a little better than it was earlier today. we know negotiations are still happening. there was a point today where we thought there was a total breakdown. tonight it's between senator mitch mcconnell and vice president joe biden. we're some of the last people in the building. i know -- come on through, guys, if you want. there's one of the crews that -- the worker crews are starting to come into work tonight. we're the last reporting crew. all the members of congress have pretty much gone. the republicans in the house were meeting late tonight to
republican representative tom cole says he's confident that boehner can get the votes he needs. >> on the speaker's plan, he had over 200 republican votes, it's not as if he had an awfully strong hand to play, if it's a deal john boehner can accept, it will be passed in a bipartisan manner with a very strong majority. if on the other hand he's neutral or not favorable, his chances will be a lot slimmer. >> lisa desjardins following the fiscal cliff negotiations on capitol hill. do...
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you gave your bletszing ing bl proposal that john boehner put forward. so many congressional republicans are scared of voting for something that feels like, looks like, smells like a tax increase because they're worried your organization will come back to haunt them because you signed a pledge. you gave your blessing and they still couldn't get the votes on the floor. what's up with that? why did that not happen? a week ago i was hopeful we might have a deal. >> okay. because the pledge is not to me. it's to the american people. it's to the people of the state that any congressman or senator is from. they have to feel that they can go to their constituents and say i voted against all efforts to raise taxes. i argued having read the boehner plan, it was silent on the taxing people who make more than a million dollars, it made permanent as opposed to obama who wants to just protect you for a year, he made permanent the tax cuts for people who made less than $250,000 a year, actually a million dollars a year. and as a result, it was a giant step towards pro
you gave your bletszing ing bl proposal that john boehner put forward. so many congressional republicans are scared of voting for something that feels like, looks like, smells like a tax increase because they're worried your organization will come back to haunt them because you signed a pledge. you gave your blessing and they still couldn't get the votes on the floor. what's up with that? why did that not happen? a week ago i was hopeful we might have a deal. >> okay. because the pledge...
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house speaker john boehner feeling a lot of the heat. we'll talk with the spokesperson for a conservative group that suggests that he resign because of his failed plan "b." p chases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone...but her likes 50% more cash. but i'm upping my game. do you want a candy cane? yes! do you want the puppy? yes! do you want a tricycle? yes! do you want 50 percent more cash? no! ♪ festive. [ male announcer ] the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash back on every purchase plus a 50% annual bonus on the cash you earn. it's the card for people who like more cash. what's in your wallet? it's the card for people who like more cash. excuse me, sir i'm gonna have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will understand. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my bill. did you really? from the plane? yeah, i can manage my policy, get roadside assistance, pretty much access geico 24/7. sounds a little too good to be true sir. i'll believe that when pigs fly. ok, did s
house speaker john boehner feeling a lot of the heat. we'll talk with the spokesperson for a conservative group that suggests that he resign because of his failed plan "b." p chases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone...but her likes 50% more cash. but i'm upping my game. do you want a candy cane? yes! do you want the puppy? yes! do you want a tricycle? yes! do you want 50 percent more cash? no! ♪ festive. [ male announcer ] the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash...
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i've always considered john boehner a friend. i said that on the house floor today, which made it all the more painful for me to say what i felt i had to say. i owed it to my constituents and i did feel that new york in a number of cases was being taken advantage of. >> you know, he says they have always been friends but they didn't sound too friend low yesterday morning. peter king has had a lot of emotion over this and we'll talk to the chairman later this morning in the 8:00 hour. >>> also new york congressman michael grimm whose district was devastated by sandy will join us. >>> new jersey governor chris christie may not be so quick to forgive speaker of the house john boehner at least when it comes to that sandy vote. christie gave boehner and the entire republican leadership an earful, vintage chris christie, for delaying that vote. >> there's only one group to blame for the continued suffering of these innocent victims. the house majority and their speaker, john boehner. new york deserves better than the selfishness we saw
i've always considered john boehner a friend. i said that on the house floor today, which made it all the more painful for me to say what i felt i had to say. i owed it to my constituents and i did feel that new york in a number of cases was being taken advantage of. >> you know, he says they have always been friends but they didn't sound too friend low yesterday morning. peter king has had a lot of emotion over this and we'll talk to the chairman later this morning in the 8:00 hour....
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the strangest part is we haven't heard what john boehner thinks about it, whether he thinks he can muster a majority. we're hearing from dana and jessica and you heard from the senator there are some problems on the democratic side of the senate on this, and the weirdest thing in the world, grover norquist, signed off on something that raises taxes on people who earn $400,000 as individuals or $450,000 as a household. you know, cats are sleeping with pigs today. it's very unusual, but it looks like everybody gets to say they got something out of this deal, but it's far from a complete deal. this is a puny, mini deal that $24 billion that dana was just talking about, it is a small portion of it, but it gives me hope in humanity that they were able to get a deal done. i don't want to jinx this thing. it's still only 9:20 on the east coast. >> everything i have been hearing from white house sources as far as the president was concerned, extending the unemployment benefits for 2 million americans, as far as he was concerned, that had to be in the deal. he wasn't going to accept anything short
the strangest part is we haven't heard what john boehner thinks about it, whether he thinks he can muster a majority. we're hearing from dana and jessica and you heard from the senator there are some problems on the democratic side of the senate on this, and the weirdest thing in the world, grover norquist, signed off on something that raises taxes on people who earn $400,000 as individuals or $450,000 as a household. you know, cats are sleeping with pigs today. it's very unusual, but it looks...
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john boehner hadn't had such a good couple of weeks. will it be senator mcconnell again who managed to kind of deal with joe biden? don't forget senator connell is up for reelection and is afraid of republicans running to his right will it be eric kantor? we see the same leadership, but we are not actually sure who is going to be cutting these deals if deals are going to be cut. another name is paul ryan voted for the fiscal cliff deal to the disappointment of many conservatives. he now becomes somebody as chairman of the budget committee who can cut these. >> you have to give mitch connell. he may be up for reelection and worried about a primary. he stood firm and worked out the deal with joe biden, the vice president of the united states and delivered an 89-8 lopsided majority. >> it took him less than a week. today he had an op ed he wrote talking about the spending cuts saying we are not going to give and didn't do that tax deal. he kind of comes to us. >> the tax increases we are talking about spending cuts. woo will have more late
john boehner hadn't had such a good couple of weeks. will it be senator mcconnell again who managed to kind of deal with joe biden? don't forget senator connell is up for reelection and is afraid of republicans running to his right will it be eric kantor? we see the same leadership, but we are not actually sure who is going to be cutting these deals if deals are going to be cut. another name is paul ryan voted for the fiscal cliff deal to the disappointment of many conservatives. he now becomes...
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the house disappeared for the holidays after boehner's plan "b" failed. where is the sense of urgency? everyone is home at night and hopefully we're all putting our hopes on mcconnell and joe biden having a productive dinner, but by god, to your point, this has been going on for not just weeks or months, but years. and the fact that they're trying to cobble together some kind of patch to avoid the political pain and the economic pain more importantly to the country that's set to kick in tomorrow night at midnight is, frankly, pathetic, and it's a political problem, but it's an economic problem, and it's entirely self-created. when marshall blackburn was talking earlier and trying to blame the senate, look at the mirror. don't block at the other guy radio right now. you have to own this, and if particularly in the house of representatives because it's the republicans in the house that have been the biggest stumbling block. we got 98% agreement, both parties and the president agree 98% of americans shouldn't have their taxes raised and yet we're stalled. >>
the house disappeared for the holidays after boehner's plan "b" failed. where is the sense of urgency? everyone is home at night and hopefully we're all putting our hopes on mcconnell and joe biden having a productive dinner, but by god, to your point, this has been going on for not just weeks or months, but years. and the fact that they're trying to cobble together some kind of patch to avoid the political pain and the economic pain more importantly to the country that's set to kick...
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. >> john boehner. >> boehner. >> burgess. >> john boehner. >> boehner. >> buscos. pelosi. butterfield. pelosi. calvert. >> dana, i don't know if you're able to answer this question or not, but we see that they're going through the formality of nominating pelosi, but we know because the democrats don't have the majority that she would not likely be speaker. do we know if there's ever been any occasion where you didn't have the majority and they nominated a speaker that wasn't in the majority? this seems like a formality here. >> reporter: it is a formality. because there were questions how the process works and whether or not he gets a real challenge, we looked it up. in the past 100 years, so not since 1913, only once has there been a real challenge that has forced a recurring vote. i think it was nine times in 1923 that they had to vote over and over again until they finally got a speaker. that's a long way of saying, no, this is a formality and again it's he a way for some -- for a few members to express their concern, express their protest on the republican side at leas
. >> john boehner. >> boehner. >> burgess. >> john boehner. >> boehner. >> buscos. pelosi. butterfield. pelosi. calvert. >> dana, i don't know if you're able to answer this question or not, but we see that they're going through the formality of nominating pelosi, but we know because the democrats don't have the majority that she would not likely be speaker. do we know if there's ever been any occasion where you didn't have the majority and they...
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peter king said boehner's actions was like a knife in the back. he now says he is satisfied. >> the bottom line is that we now are receiving what we asked for. as far as i'm concerned, what's done is done. i've always considered john boehner a friend and i said that on the house floor today, which made it all the more painful for me to say what i felt i had to say. i owed it to my constituents and i did feel that new york in a number of cases was being taken advantage of. >> he was just outraged that there was no sandy relief passed in that fiscal cliff issue. the house will vote tomorrow on $9 billion in sandy aid. that's for flood insurance. it will consider another $51 billion in aid later this month. >>> and to hear new jersey governor chris christie tell it, boehner still has some explaining to do. christie had some choice words over his party's leadership over the delay in sandy funding. >> there's only one group to blame for the continued suffering of these innocent victims, the house majority and their speaker, john boehner. new york deser
peter king said boehner's actions was like a knife in the back. he now says he is satisfied. >> the bottom line is that we now are receiving what we asked for. as far as i'm concerned, what's done is done. i've always considered john boehner a friend and i said that on the house floor today, which made it all the more painful for me to say what i felt i had to say. i owed it to my constituents and i did feel that new york in a number of cases was being taken advantage of. >> he was...
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the house majority and their speaker, john boehner. new york deserves better than the selfishness we saw on display last night. new jersey deserves better than the duplicity we saw displayed last night. america deserves better than just another exam personal foul a government that has forgotten who they are there to serve and why. >> new york's governor andrew cuomo and members of new york's largely democratic delegation also slammed the house's failure to act, and so did one of new york's leading republican house members. >> he kept telling me wait until the vote is over, wait until the fiscal cliff vote is over and then everything will be taken care of. and then he was gone. and he wouldn't -- he refused to meet with us. he actually yelled at congressman lobiando, said i'm not meeting with you people. he wouldn't tell us why. he just decided to sneak off in the dark of night. >> by day's end, though, he was singing a different tune because the house speaker john boehner was promising a friday vote on at least part of the relief packa
the house majority and their speaker, john boehner. new york deserves better than the selfishness we saw on display last night. new jersey deserves better than the duplicity we saw displayed last night. america deserves better than just another exam personal foul a government that has forgotten who they are there to serve and why. >> new york's governor andrew cuomo and members of new york's largely democratic delegation also slammed the house's failure to act, and so did one of new...
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republican congressman peter king says it is all speaker boehner's fault. >> speaker boehner is the one. he walked off the floor. he refused to toll us why. refused to give us any indication or warning whatsoever. i'm saying anyone from new york and new jersey who contributes one penny to the republican congressional campaign committee should have their head examined. i would not give one penny to these people based on what they did to us last night. i would say -- i'm talking about the people in my neighborhood that i see, people are out of homes, people are living in devastated homes, people without jobs, people lost their businesses, their clothing, their life-long possessions. absolutely disgraceful. people in my party, they wonder why they're becoming a minority people. they're writing off new york. their writing off new jersey. they have written me off and they'll have a hard time getting my vote. i can tell you that. >> let's go to governor christie speaking right now. >> -- were damaged or destroyed. nearly 7 million new jerseyians were without power, some for up to 14 days. nea
republican congressman peter king says it is all speaker boehner's fault. >> speaker boehner is the one. he walked off the floor. he refused to toll us why. refused to give us any indication or warning whatsoever. i'm saying anyone from new york and new jersey who contributes one penny to the republican congressional campaign committee should have their head examined. i would not give one penny to these people based on what they did to us last night. i would say -- i'm talking about the...
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how much trouble is john boehner in as the speaker of the house? >> i actually -- i actually don't think that john boehner is going to be in that much trouble this year. i don't think when his speakership comes up for a vote that he will be in trouble. i don't see anyone else lining up to take his job. >> perhaps in the last few hours we may have seen -- >> i just interviewed darrell issa and he says that he's with eric cantor. >> so that might be changing but i do think that john boehner has certainly lost control of his caucus. but frankly, they might want a weak leader because then they think they can control him. >> it's the second poke in the eye. he had plan b and now the pressure a lot of people got from the meeting at the white house, boehner said, it's up to the senate. let them pass something. if it's a bipartisan majority, we'll bring it to the house and vote on it up or down. >> you were talking about the political damage republicans could sustain and there are about 50 or 60 republicans sitting thinking, yes, i'm really worried about t
how much trouble is john boehner in as the speaker of the house? >> i actually -- i actually don't think that john boehner is going to be in that much trouble this year. i don't think when his speakership comes up for a vote that he will be in trouble. i don't see anyone else lining up to take his job. >> perhaps in the last few hours we may have seen -- >> i just interviewed darrell issa and he says that he's with eric cantor. >> so that might be changing but i do think...
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than john boehner. marco rubio in the senate is calculating his 2016 primary and thinks there's something there. you know, the problem really is the bigger picture is the democrats are the ones who keep becoming reasonably saving the day, putting the votes over the top. this gop leadership is failing the country. it's not just that there's no ko home invasion. there's no strategy or plan to do anything different. john boehner and eric cantor had their chance to actually come up with a more reasonable package and didn't. >> ari, i thought that john boehner showed a little courage there. he was almost -- if you will, going against so many republicans and saying you know what? there aren't a whole lot of spending cut, but the country cannot go over this fiscal cliff because tens of millions of americans could see their taxes going up. he did the right thing in terms of wanting to prek so many. >> at the end of the day, the speaker's job is to be the most reasonable person in the house and the person has to
than john boehner. marco rubio in the senate is calculating his 2016 primary and thinks there's something there. you know, the problem really is the bigger picture is the democrats are the ones who keep becoming reasonably saving the day, putting the votes over the top. this gop leadership is failing the country. it's not just that there's no ko home invasion. there's no strategy or plan to do anything different. john boehner and eric cantor had their chance to actually come up with a more...
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>> mcconnell and boehner, the adults in the room. when harry reid gets nudged out -- sorry, biden, i just mispronounced that two or three times. >> he files things under letters so he has b, boehner, biden, interchangeable. >> exactly true, something my wife would know. joe biden the fact he has three decades in the senate. >> he was the butt of all of the jokes from republicans during the campaign, joe biden, a lot of democrats stopped respecting him? >> why doesn't washington work the way it used to, senators, congressmen knew each other person personally, they knew how to sit down in the bargaining table. they're vestiges of washington. >> george w. bush this enshrines and makes permanent his tax policy apart at the very top. >> we see a lot of bushies saying we won, ari fleischer and others. paul ryan voted yes on this measure. >> here's what happened. lindsey graham, republicans are all over the map on this one, many different republicans saying different things. lindsey graham said to the house, just vote on this and save your
>> mcconnell and boehner, the adults in the room. when harry reid gets nudged out -- sorry, biden, i just mispronounced that two or three times. >> he files things under letters so he has b, boehner, biden, interchangeable. >> exactly true, something my wife would know. joe biden the fact he has three decades in the senate. >> he was the butt of all of the jokes from republicans during the campaign, joe biden, a lot of democrats stopped respecting him? >> why...
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then we went through the months and months of talks between the president and boehner, both times boehner could not deliver because they refused because of grover norquist to allow any taxes for revenues whatsoever. we had meetings with the vice president biden and cantor. he walked out of it. he's the majority leader in the house. we had this supercommittee and they were doing good things. good things. dealing with entitlements and revenues and a week before they were to report, by virtue of a statute, i get a letter signed by virtually every republican, too bad about the supercommittee. we're not going to do anything with revenues. >> okay. i think that's a good place to end this. what you're hearing is the history of what has happened to bring us to this point. i want to bring in our congressional correspondent dana bash. dana, i was just sitting here imagining someone turning on their tv thinking, what a these people talking about? and i think i would sort of boil it down to this. when they are talking on the floor, that's never a good sign. they should be talking in a back room. they
then we went through the months and months of talks between the president and boehner, both times boehner could not deliver because they refused because of grover norquist to allow any taxes for revenues whatsoever. we had meetings with the vice president biden and cantor. he walked out of it. he's the majority leader in the house. we had this supercommittee and they were doing good things. good things. dealing with entitlements and revenues and a week before they were to report, by virtue of a...
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he's blaming the republican john boehner for the stall in talks on fiscal cliff. dana bash is our congressional correspondent. it just seems like this is the blame game. the house speaker would blame the president, the senate majority leader would blame the house speaker. who is to blame in all this? >> everybody is, carol. it's the blame game. i'm a little surprised at how personal harry reid just got in going after the speaker. it is true that things have clearly broken down, that goes without saying, and that the democrats were not happy that maybe a week and a half ago the speaker pulled out of talks with the president after they had reached a pretty good amount of progress. but the fact that he called the speaker a dictator and in the next breath said he's worried about his job, it's a little contradictory, but very personal. let me give you a little bit of a reality check. that is it is true that the house is not in session. they will come in quickly at 2:00 in a pro formal way and house republican leaders have told members they will give them 48-hours notic
he's blaming the republican john boehner for the stall in talks on fiscal cliff. dana bash is our congressional correspondent. it just seems like this is the blame game. the house speaker would blame the president, the senate majority leader would blame the house speaker. who is to blame in all this? >> everybody is, carol. it's the blame game. i'm a little surprised at how personal harry reid just got in going after the speaker. it is true that things have clearly broken down, that goes...
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john boehner needs to take this deal struck in the senate that presumably has some buy in from him if not from his rank and file, because mitch mcconnell did not negotiate this is a vacuum and this is a pretty overwe will being vote. he will take this to his conference today and see where they are at. the expectation is there are two directions this could go. either a vote on the bill or house republicans propose changes so they can amend the bill more to their liking and send it back to the senate. but i think this is expected to move along here. >> there could be amendments, one past, they could vote on amendments, could fail, and then vote on the full measure. isn't that true also? >> yeah, that is true, and the other thing is once anything goes to the floor, it's not just up to republicans, it will -- and the think the expectation all along, whatever ultimately passes the house as we saw in the senate will require democrats and republicans. >> talking to phil gingery, seemed to be leaning no on this. but this time, secretary bamr. doesn't need all of the votes. >> and even though
john boehner needs to take this deal struck in the senate that presumably has some buy in from him if not from his rank and file, because mitch mcconnell did not negotiate this is a vacuum and this is a pretty overwe will being vote. he will take this to his conference today and see where they are at. the expectation is there are two directions this could go. either a vote on the bill or house republicans propose changes so they can amend the bill more to their liking and send it back to the...
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this is very tricky for john boehner and his lieutenant. they have a relatively narrow house majority, polls show that the fiscal cliff blame would be mostly on them, not the president. not on democrats. that might change. but this is a very risky move if we go well into january with this unresolved. >> and you got to wonder if the house republicans are kicking themselves for not passing the plan b, which allowed for tax rates on people making a million or more since the figure that passed was significantly less at 400,000. bob cusack, thank you. we appreciate you being with us. >> thanks, deb. >>> well, developing this hour in alaska, on a shallow and rocky shore line near the uninhabited kodiak island, a huge oil rig has run aground. it has run aground. the coast guard has done a flyover of the shipwreck. it says that there is no signs of an oil spill. at least not at this stage. the kulluk is carrying 150,000 gallons of fuel and oil, operating as part of shell's controversial arctic drilling program. >>> well, word of new fallout from th
this is very tricky for john boehner and his lieutenant. they have a relatively narrow house majority, polls show that the fiscal cliff blame would be mostly on them, not the president. not on democrats. that might change. but this is a very risky move if we go well into january with this unresolved. >> and you got to wonder if the house republicans are kicking themselves for not passing the plan b, which allowed for tax rates on people making a million or more since the figure that...